“Pastor, I Need More Application in Your Sermons”

Every pastor has heard it, kindly meant, usually on the way out the door. And every honest pastor has thought about it long after. “Pastor, I love the teaching. But I need more application. Tell me what to do with it on Tuesday.”

It is a fair request, and I want to take it seriously rather than defensively, because Scripture itself refuses to leave truth un-applied. The Bible commands, corrects, trains, and reproves. James will not let us be hearers only. Any preaching that never reaches your marriage, your money, your speech, and your workplace has not yet finished its assignment.

But I want to tell you what I have learned about where application actually comes from, because the New Testament’s answer surprised me, and it may surprise you. The deepest application in the New Testament is not first a list. It is a look.

Here is the verse that convinced me. “And we all, with unveiled face, beholding the glory of the Lord, are being transformed into the same image from one degree of glory to another. For this comes from the Lord who is the Spirit” (2 Corinthians 3:18).

Read it slowly and notice what Paul puts together, because he is describing how a Christian actually changes. As we behold the glory of the Lord, we are being transformed into the same image, and Paul is emphatic about where the transformation comes from: “the Lord who is the Spirit.” He does not say, “beholding the glory of the Lord, we then implement several principles.”

The sight itself, sustained, unveiled, repeated, is what the Spirit uses to make us like Christ. Sanctification, in that sentence, is optics before it is effort. Not sight instead of effort, but Spirit-enabled effort born from sight.

Again and again, the New Testament works this way. Hebrews tells the weary to run their race “looking to Jesus, the founder and perfecter of our faith” (Hebrews 12:2). John says of the Lord’s appearing, “we shall be like him, because we shall see him as he is,” and then adds that everyone who has this hope “purifies himself” (1 John 3:2–3). The future sight will complete our conformity to Him, and the hope of that sight purifies us even now.

Even the great chapters of commands are built this way. Ephesians spends three chapters doing almost nothing but showing you what God has done in Christ before a single instruction arrives, and when the instructions do arrive, wonderfully concrete ones about speech and marriage and work, every one of them is drawing its power from the sight that came first.

Let me give you the picture that has helped me most. Nobody glances at the Grand Canyon. Or almost nobody. I stood at the rim once, gazing, when an expensive sports car pulled up and out stepped a young man who looked like he had the world at his feet. He walked to the edge. He looked. Eight seconds, maybe, certainly not fifteen. Then he said, out loud, “Wow. Cool.”

He turned, walked back to his car, and drove away. Those of us left standing there were simply stunned. I am sure he drove off thinking he had seen the Grand Canyon, and technically he had. But a gaze that short cannot take in a canyon. He looked without ever really seeing. You stand at the rim, and the longer you stand, the bigger it gets, and something happens to you that no brochure about the canyon could do.

What would we have said to that young man if he had turned and asked, “Yes, but what am I supposed to do with this?” We would have said: friend, right now, your assignment is to look. The looking is not the delay before the real business. At the rim, the looking is the real business, and you will drive away a slightly different man because you did it.

The old writers of our tradition understood this deeply. Robert Murray M’Cheyne wrote in a letter, “For every look at yourself, take ten looks at Christ.” Thomas Chalmers supplied the theology behind that counsel in the very title of a famous sermon, “The Expulsive Power of a New Affection”: you do not pry a sinful love out of the human heart by instruction alone; you displace it with a greater love, and greater love comes from a greater sight. (Isaac Ambrose said it in a book title alone: Looking Unto Jesus.) These men were not soft on obedience. They were wise about where obedience comes from.

And the conviction is not antique. John MacArthur, often criticized for giving too little of what people call application, answers that effective preaching does three things: it explains the meaning of the text, it presses the implications built into that meaning, and it exhorts the hearer to respond. Manufacture a stack of little scenarios, he says, and you may miss ninety percent of the room, the people whose lives your scenarios never touch. But make the implication of the text clear and sharp, and no one escapes, because “application belongs to the Spirit of God,” who drives the truth into the particular places of each life that only He can see. That is not laziness about obedience either. It is confidence about who does the piercing.

And this explains why the other kind of preaching fails, the kind that is all assignments and no rim. Give a congregation applications without first giving them Christ, and you will manufacture one of two things: proud people who are managing the list, or despairing people who are buried under it. That preaching has a name, and the name is moralism: commands detached from Christ and from the Spirit’s power. The law of God is holy, righteous, and good, and it tells us truly what righteousness requires; what it cannot do is give a dead heart life or create the love it commands. This is why I will not moralize a text for you, ever. Every command in my preaching must sit on top of something God has already done, or I have not preached it as Scripture gives it.

So here is what I am actually doing on a Sunday when I seem to slow down, when I linger at a verse you might think we had finished. I have started writing one word in my sermon notes more and more, and the word is “pause.” Those pauses are not padding. They are the application. When the text before us says, “Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her,” there are moments I simply stop. I do not move to the next point. I let the room sit inside the sentence. That is the application, doing its own work. I am trying to hold you at the rim for more than a glance, because I have come to believe that three unhurried seconds of actually seeing the Lord Jesus, crucified, risen, enthroned, interceding, can do more in you by the Spirit than three additional points from me. The transformation belongs to the beholding. My job is to open the Word, set Christ before you, and keep directing your eyes to Him. Only the Lord can take the veil away, and He loves to do it.

Does that mean Tuesday gets nothing? No. It means Tuesday gets something better than a list: it gets a reason. When we have truly seen Him together, I will still land the text where you live, usually in one place or two, named plainly. But you will notice those landings are short, and there is a reason for that too. Application that grows out of beholding does not need endless scaffolding. The sight has already supplied the reason for obedience.

There is a real place for concrete instruction, and sometimes extended instruction; a new believer may genuinely need to be shown what forgiveness looks like in practice. What instruction cannot do is supply the power to obey itself. The husband who has beheld Christ loving the church may still need the landing named, and I will name it: love her this week at cost to yourself, in one act she has stopped expecting. But he will not need seven sub-points. He needs the sight, one sentence, and the courage the sight just gave him. The look does not replace the landing. It makes the landing Christian.

So let me turn the request around, gently, into an invitation. Next Lord’s Day, come asking two questions in this order. First: what am I being shown? Stay with that one longer than feels natural. Behold, with more than a glance.

Then, second: where does this touch my Tuesday? Ask the second question only after the first has had its full time, and you will find, I think, what I keep finding, that the second question has often begun answering itself, because “beholding the glory of the Lord” we “are being transformed.”

That transformation is not the product of a preaching technique. It is the Spirit’s work. One day the beholding will be unbroken, and the transformation complete: “we shall be like him, because we shall see him as he is.”

Until then, this is the work, and it is the sweetest work in the world. Look at Him, and keep looking. To the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only God, be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen.

Sources

Robert Murray M’Cheyne, in Andrew Bonar, ed., Memoir and Remains of the Rev. Robert Murray M’Cheyne, letter to George Shaw, March 20, 1840. M’Cheyne set the sentence in quotation marks, apparently passing on older counsel; Thomas Chalmers quoted the same saying in an 1844 letter and attributed it to Richard Baxter. The two men paired above were passing the same sentence between them.

Thomas Chalmers, “The Expulsive Power of a New Affection,” widely reprinted.

John MacArthur, “John MacArthur on Sermon Application,” Grace to You, available at gty.org/sermons/GTY117.

Five Types of People

There are five types of people:

  1. There are those who are saved, and they know that they are saved.
  2. There are those who are saved but do not (presently) have the assurance of salvation.
  3. There are those who are not saved, know it, and don’t care.
  4. There are those who are not saved but wholeheartedly believe that they are saved. They have a false assurance of salvation.
  5. There are those who are not saved, know it, and are troubled by it. They have heard enough to be convicted but have not yet come to Christ.

If that is you, hear this: conviction is not conversion, but it is often the road to it. Do not settle for being troubled. Come to Christ Himself, today. His own promise is that “whoever comes to me I will never cast out” (John 6:37).

The fourth group is a difficult one to deal with because Jesus taught that there are many people in this category who will be beyond shocked on judgment day:

Jesus said, “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. On that day many will say to me, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?’ And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.'” – Matthew 7:21-23

Notice what these people were resting on: their performance, impressive religious works done in His name. What was missing was not activity but relationship: “I never knew you.”

God’s true sheep follow Jesus.

They heed the voice of the Shepherd, and when they hear the true Christ and His true gospel proclaimed, will not reject it but embrace it. A stranger (referring to false Christs, false teachers with false gospels), they will not follow (John 10:5).

Jesus said, “My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life, and they will never perish, and no one will snatch them out of my hand. My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand. I and the Father are one.” – John 10:27-30

A final word to the believer who trembles at Matthew 7. Notice that the self-deceived in that passage never doubted themselves; they were confident to the very end. Sheep are different. Sheep sometimes doubt, but they cannot leave the Shepherd. If you hear His voice and follow Him, however falteringly, His promise stands: they will never perish.

Some Potential Questions for Elder Candidate

By Tom Hicks

[Not comprehensive. Not in any particular order.]

How would you counsel someone who asked you how much they should give to the church?

What is your perspective on congregationalism?

Do you think it’s valuable for a church to have a prayer meeting? What do you believe about officers coming to prayer meeting? Would you come to prayer meeting as pastor?

Why are you a Baptist? What does it mean to be a Baptist?

What about Sunday afternoon service? How important is it to the church’s life and health?

Do you affirm our confession’s doctrine of the Sabbath?

Do you affirm the doctrine of “inerrancy?” [Familiar with the Chicago Statement?]

What does it mean to have “the ability to teach?”

Do you agree with our church’s confession of faith? Do you take any exceptions to anything in them?

What has God taught you over the past few years?

What is the mission of the church?

What do you believe are the most dangerous errors facing the church today?

What are the three uses of the moral law of God?

How would you describe the difference and similarity between the law and the gospel? Are we required to keep the law today?

Who should be permitted to take the Lord’s Supper?

What are your views on Christian liberty? Drinking, smoking?

What are some key things people need to understand about justification and sanctification?

What is the “order of salvation?”

What is the biblical definition of forgiveness?

Under what conditions, if any, should someone be allowed to get a divorce?

If someone was baptized as an infant, should we require that person to be immersed?

What if someone suggested that we use a dramatic presentation of a biblical story in public worship? How would you respond?

What is your testimony of conversion?

How does a pastor lead God’s people?

How would you describe your calling to be a pastor? Discuss the relationship between the internal call and the external call. How do you know for certain God has called you and that it isn’t self-deceptive presumption? How would you respond if the church chose not to call you to be a pastor?

Do you believe you will be able to pastor the other pastors and deacons of this church? What does that look like?

If no other called man were available, do you believe you could pastor a church by yourself?

Do you hold any position in theology that we might find unusual or controversial?

Would you say that you affirm the five points of Calvinism?

What would you do / How would you react if your church did not call you to be a pastor?

How would you counsel someone who repeatedly gives in to the same sin? Say you are trying to pastor a man who has regular outbursts of sinful anger. He knows it is a sin. He is grieved and sorrowful when he does it and wants to overcome it, but he fails over and over. How do you deal with him? What do you tell him?

As an elder, what will you do if you fundamentally disagree with the Senior Pastor on a practical issue not closely related to the gospel? [When should you submit to the leadership of the senior pastor and when should you not submit?]

What if it comes to your attention that a Senior Adult teacher is teaching against the doctrine of predestination? How will you handle it?

How would you handle an issue in which a deacon’s wife is gossiping and spreading rumors? What would you do?

What is the proper relationship between “shepherding” and “ruling?” Between “teaching” and “getting involved in people’s lives?”

How should a pastor/elder love the sheep?

What text of Scripture would you point someone to if you wanted to teach them the doctrine of sanctification?

Could you list 3 or 4 doctrines that our church should not divide over? Could you list 3 or 4 doctrines that our church should divide over?

Could you give us a brief outline of your pastoral theology? (Theology of the pastorate?)

How do you handle criticism? How would your wife handle criticism of you?

Could you describe/discuss how (and how often) family worship takes place in your home?

How do you define “success” in the role of the pastor?

What effects would you want to see as fruits of your pastoral ministry?